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boletus_hunter
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posted 11-14-2007 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for boletus_hunter   Click Here to Email boletus_hunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It seems that at any one time there may several of us going though a particular type of treatment - CVP, CHOP, ICE, etc. etc. Trying to keep track of who's where and why is difficult in chemo brained state.

There ya have it..anyone on CHOP? What cycle, how's it going, tips or tricks?

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NetNewt
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posted 11-14-2007 11:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NetNewt   Click Here to Email NetNewt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am on RCHOP - 5th cycle next Tuesday. I am due to have 6 cycles and hopefully that will be the end of it. Of it all I find the prednisone the hardest thing to take. It really messes with my mind and it lasts well past the 5 days I am on it. Usually chemo day is Ok and the first 2 days of prednisone I can function normally then the roller coaster takes off. Days 3,4 and 5 I am so uptight and agro and very anxious - this anxiety lasts for days afterwards. By the start of the last week before chemo things have settled down a bit and then I know it will all start up again the following week after chemo.
I have found that I also get a type of morning sickness from day 6 of the cycle - I have sort of solved this now by taking my anti nausea medication 30 minutes before I get out of bed and that seems to work.
I have had no problems with constipation - my problem is the opposite and I have chronic diarrhoea the whole time - this of course has not helped me keep any weight on so I will be in trouble when I go in next week.
I admire all you people who continue to work through all of this - it is all I can manage to do some of the things at home like shopping etc. I am wary of going too far from home because of the diarrhoea etc.
I am hoping that when I finish the treatment my brain and its anxiety will settle down and I can start to function normally again. I guess that will depend on whether I get a good report or not.

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boletus_hunter
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posted 11-14-2007 11:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for boletus_hunter   Click Here to Email boletus_hunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh dear, I know that prednisone rollercoaster well! And I've never liked roller coasters

They gave me lorazepam for anxiety and found that I had to take a quarter of a 1/2 miligram in the early cycles or it would make me real tired. I did work the entire time and couldn't stand being so tired! By cyle 5 & 6 I'd worked up to 1/2 Which was enough to take the edge off of the prednizone crazies (my term for it).

I am so sorry about the diarrhea. Not feeling comfortable ranging far is just one more restriction. Darn, gotta keep some of that food in for nourishment. It's hard enough sometimes to get it in!

Keep your chin up, CHOP's not the gold standard for nothing. donna

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Margaret
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posted 11-18-2007 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Margaret   Click Here to Email Margaret     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear NetNeut
Just wanted to tell you that I went thru the CHOP series five years ago. The prednisone is rough, to say the least. How do you take it? I ask that because I found if I took mine in the morning, I could handle it better by bedtime. This med. causes anxiety and makes you feel like you are climbing the walls. You are the first one I have heard say that you had nausea on the 6th day. In fact, my oncologist at that time, told me he had never had a pt. who got sick on that time table. The first time it happened on the day after I got finished with the prednisone, he chalked it up to a virus. The second time, he agreed it must be related to the prednisone coming out of my body. I started heading it off by taking an antiemetic two days before it would happen. Two episodes of nausea/vomiting/heaving was more than enough to last me a lifetime. Insomnia goes along with the chemo. I just have started sleeping better within the last couple of months. That is five years after the fact. Also, I still suffer from the fatigue and chemo brain. The chemo caused arthritis in my wrists and joints. Some days (the last couple of days), my legs and arms feel like they have cement blocks attached to them. Be aware that chemo can cause depression because it causes a chemical imbalance.
My heart goes out to you, but I am one who made the journey. I have been cancer free five years this week. I thank God for that, since the type I had is the easiest to relapse with. Has your oncologist told you anything about giving you Retuxin maintenance treatments after the CHOP? Some docs do not do it, but mine firmly believed in doing it.
I am here for you should you need moral support. It isn't an easy journey, but one you can make. I look back and my cancer journey seems surreal now. Take care and keep us updated. Margaret

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NetNewt
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posted 11-20-2007 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NetNewt   Click Here to Email NetNewt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for your message MArgaret - have just had my 5th RCHOP - unbelievably tired during it and last night after it. Just couldn't keep awake - good to hear of someone who has come through all this and survived- it gives me hope. Thanks for the information on the prednisone and anxiety - I have asked my doctor about this because I am suffering extreme anxiety symptoms - even normal little things set off an anxiety attack which is making life extra hard. However I am hopeful that the next RCHOP will be my last - due to have scan on Jan 18 to see results and hope the wretched thing has disappeared - doctor says to take the long perspective and that in 5 years this will be a blip on the horizon - I hope he is right and I make it that far with a sane brain. Going through this though makes me doubt that I will ever get my brain back to its pre diagnosis state when I was in such control. Things like this make you realize that you are never really in control of your life- you only think you are!

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NetNewt
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posted 11-20-2007 06:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NetNewt   Click Here to Email NetNewt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MArgaret
Just on the prednisone - I take it in the morning - mainly to take it with freshly squeezed orange juice to get it down - I hate taking it and the taste of it however only 9 more days to go hopefully. I also spoke to the oncologist about the prednisone and my reaction to it - he was surprised and didn't want to know - have also spoken to the chemo nurses about it but all they will say is that it is an important part of the chemo so has to be put up with. I get more support from my local doctor who at least is sympathetic about it and admits that as a steroid it does have an effect on the brain. I will be just glad when I can get off it for good and I would have been happier if I had got some more support from the oncologist. He is so busy though that I guess he has other patients who have worse problems.

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shashelt
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posted 11-20-2007 07:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shashelt   Click Here to Email shashelt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
While I was having R-CHOP, I was on 100 mg prednsone daily x 5 days. They were in 20mg tablets and I took them in split doses so it didn't hit so hard all a once. I'd take 2 in the morning w/ breakfast, 2 at lunch, and then the last early evening with dinner.

Never had any nausea or vomiting but had horrendous heartburn/acid reflux which was stopped in its tracks as soon as I started on OTC acid reducers (such as Prilosec). When I was off the pred, I could stop the scid reducers. If I didn't take it though, I couldn't even drink water without having heartburn.

-Sharon

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boletus_hunter
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posted 11-21-2007 10:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for boletus_hunter   Click Here to Email boletus_hunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NetNewt: One more to go!

I know it seems hard right now, I was there in July and I too feared that the changes would be permanent. Now that I'm 3 months out I can see tangible improvements, consequently my mood has improved greatly.

So sorry that your onc is not more supportive and thankfully you've a gp to take up the slack.

Pulling for you up here.. <<Hugs>> Donna

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NetNewt
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posted 11-21-2007 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NetNewt   Click Here to Email NetNewt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Donna - I am counting down to what will be hopefully the last treatment and looking forward to getting my brain back to a more normal state. It gives me great support to hear that others have been through this and come out the other side. I don't feel so stupid or alone.

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Angelita
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posted 11-21-2007 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Angelita     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hola everyone
Had my last of the 6 alternate CHOP/R-CHOP today. Rituximab in 3 and 4 weeks time and then evaluations and possibly Zevalin after fiestas in Spain finish in January.
I havent had any problems with anxiety or the taste of Prednisone although I take 200mg a day for the 5 days BUT it does have a different trade name of Dacortin Prednisona, but then i am in Spain. I dont take my anti-nauseas tablets (Yatrox Ondansetrón)because i eat compulsively with them and i dont feel sick anyway. I sometimes do crazy things which usually involve cooking some weird dish which i dont even want to eat and end up trowing away a couple of days later (i dont often cook for myself the rest of the time and when i do its something absurdly strange)I also cry a lot and shout now and again during the first few days after the quimio.
I have had odd days and good days and bad days during the chemo but i spose i´ve handled it all verry well on the whole.
I´ve just been prescribed anti-depressants because i´m now falling apart, now that the chemo has finished. Think i might post seperately on this point.
Good luck to everyone on Chop protocol. I´ve not found it half as bad as i expected.

Angela

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shashelt
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posted 11-21-2007 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shashelt   Click Here to Email shashelt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Muy bien, Angelita! Muy bien! :-)

I understand all about the "mixed feelings" of the final chemo treatment. You're glad it's over but then.....what? While on chemo I think we all feel some measure of control and we're doing "something" to fight it/beat it back. But then the chemo is over...and we have to wait again. For the next test, the next scan, the next...what?? It's the damn uncertainty of it all that is so annoying (at least to me). But little by little, we each learn in our own way to deal with it.

Bueno suerte, Senorita Angelita! Paz y bendiciones
Sharon

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NetNewt
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posted 11-21-2007 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NetNewt   Click Here to Email NetNewt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Angelita
I too have been prescibed anti depressants because i am not handling the whole thing very well - can't find one that works for me at the moment though - the only thing that does work is anti anxiety drugs which I am trying to minimize the use of in case they are addictive. I jsut find that they work for me and none of the anti depressants do anything, I have one more treatment to go and then the waiting begins - have extra long time to get results because Dr is away for Christmas break and won't be back for 5 or so weeks after my last treatment still I guess that if the tumour is gone then it should still be gone after 5 weeks instead of 4. Just know that I will fall apart with nerves before this scan just like I did the last one though. I understand what you are going through and this will happen all the time now every time a scan is due - the worry will come back - I have hated my chemo and dread the thought of having to face it again.

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Margaret
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posted 11-22-2007 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Margaret   Click Here to Email Margaret     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can honestly say that with time, the scans didn't bother me anymore. I got anxious about the first couple, but after that, I didn't worry about it. I just dislike the inconvenince of doing them. So, hopefully, you will get better about the scans after a while.
As I said, depression is one of the side effects of the CHOP. I have dealt with it for five years now. I take both Cymbalta and Wellbutrin. The two together has helped me immensely. I don't have as many bad days as I did.
I have found that oncologists are so busy, they don't have the time to spend with their patients. The doctor I go to now (a female) is a lot more empathetic than the first one. He was not compassionate at all. As far as the prednisone goes, it is a vital drug with the CHOP. It was explained to me like this: The prednisone cracks open the cells that has the lymphoma in them. Kinda like cracking up a nut and finding the meat in it. Even though I am a RN by career, I found that easier to understand. When I got sick, I stopped being a nurse and become the patient. Don't hesitate to take something for anxiety. The prednisone will definitely cause that.
Glad to hear that you are almost finished with the treatments. You can do it! Blessings to you! Hang in there. Margaret

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Angelita
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posted 11-22-2007 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Angelita     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hola, thanks for your replies. It´s quite strange that i´m not really and havent been at all bothered outwardly by the whole process of chemo or the disease. My attitude has been as if i´ve been taking tablets for a headache for the past few months and if it hasnt gone away by january then i take different tablets.I´m really quite calm about the whole issue. My problem will be if the insurance wont pay for the Zevalin en january as nuclear medicine is one of the exemptions on my policy and the social system doesnt do Zevalin.The cost will be around 12,000 euros which i cant pay and my parents were expecting it to be 6,000euros which is what i was told originally and i really dont want them to pay out so much money. I would prefer to go through the chemo again if necessary rather than have them pay out so much money.I´m not in a position to even offer to pay them back so i´m a bit concerned about that. Would i be totally mad to say no to my parents offer to pay????????

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NetNewt
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posted 11-22-2007 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NetNewt   Click Here to Email NetNewt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MArgaret
Thanks for your response - your image of how the prednisone works has just made it much easier for me to take my morning dose - as I was taking the tablets I imagined them going to work as you described - it helped. Also thanks for your support - I wondered whether I was going out of my mind but to hear that others have got depression from the prednisone and also anxiety makes me feel I am not so weird after all. I am hoping to get my life back on track after I stop taking all these drugs,

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NetNewt
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posted 12-11-2007 09:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NetNewt   Click Here to Email NetNewt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well just had 6th RCHOP - am incredibly nauseous and tired after this one - is this just psychological in that I think it is my last and am relaxing or is it standard - hope it is my last as I don't think I could physically cope with anymore. I am trying to eat and keeping up the fluids but I normally feel better than this the day after chemo. I am still on the strong anti nausea drugs - would hate to think what I would be like if I didn't have them.

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boletus_hunter
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posted 12-11-2007 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for boletus_hunter   Click Here to Email boletus_hunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It may be 'all in your head' but I doubt it. Seems each builds on the last. So happy that this may be your last one so we can do the happy dance for you.

Donna

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Margaret
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posted 12-12-2007 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Margaret   Click Here to Email Margaret     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NetNewt
Congrats on this being your last CHOP treatment. I might have said this, but I will say it again. The chemo accumulates in the body as one treatment follows another one. By the sixth treatment, I was so fatigued, both emotionally, mentally and psysically, I didn't think I would make it. But, I DID. So, you can also. I still suffer with fatigue, and there is no ryhme or reason as to when it happens. I can remember not even being able to go from a sitting to standing position. I have knelt down to do something and couldn't get up. My legs felt like cement blocks tied onto them. Yesterday was one of those days my arms and legs felt like that. Everyone is different and the amount of time it lasts after treatment is different.
So, go ahead and take your antiemetic for as long as you need to. Chemo nausea and vomiting are not compared to any other kind. I was pregnant four times and sick as a dog, but it was not the same. Unless you have had those side affects, you can't know the severity of the n/v.
I just thank God you are almost finished. You can see the finish line. Take care. Margaret

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NetNewt
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posted 12-12-2007 10:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NetNewt   Click Here to Email NetNewt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks Margaret - am pleased to know this fatigue has been felt by you too - I am normally Ok on the first 2 days after treatment but this time I can hardly move from one place to another - I am just sitting around and can not get warm at all. I don't have a temperature but just can not get warm - it is our summer here and I am sitting in winter gear with my fluffy slippers on - just sitting doing nothing - I am not sleepy today like yesterday but I just can't do anything - I will have to get up and try to do some things this afternoon. I expected to feel euphoric at the thought that this was my last chemo and I am just the opposite.

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posted 12-18-2007 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for boletus_hunter   Click Here to Email boletus_hunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
NewNewt,

I can so relate to your being cold! My heating pad became my best friend It's one of those microwaveable ones and it was a blessing to keep me warm.

It took me some time to get my head around the last infusion not meaning it was over; still had the cycle going, blood cells plunge and the whole nine yard.

Hope your feeling a tiny bit better. Donna

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bjm
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posted 12-19-2007 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjm   Click Here to Email bjm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I will have my second R-CHOP in two days (on Thursday). I am not certain what to expect this round, as my first treatment was immediately followed by a virus that put me out flat for a full 7 to 10 days (the one I'm calling the Devil's Spawn Virus) and gave me laryngitis. I figure the second round has got to be a breeze in contrast. I didn't know what side effect I was feeling - from the chemo, from the virus, from the Batrim (sulfa) antibiotic. My onc last week said the stomach upset/acid problem was probably more due to chemo than Bactrim and suggested taking Prilosec. It helped immensely! He also said many of his patients are on Prilosec for their entire treatment span.

In a previous post in another section, I asked about hair loss. Thanks for your replies. Well, right on schedule - day 15 - it started falling out by handfuls. Scarves and caps this week; I pick up wig on Friday. Need a little variety!

My S.O. (or would you call him DO on this board ?) lives out of state and will be arriving tomorrow to stay through Christmas. He'll take me to chemo on Thursday. It's good he sees (in person) what's going on!

Happy holidays everyone and thanks for what you all contribute to this board. Wishing you all peace and warmth! - Bonnie

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NetNewt
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posted 12-19-2007 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for NetNewt   Click Here to Email NetNewt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Donna
Thanks for message - am starting to feel a bit better now - have been able to get out of the house and do some Christmas shopping today and can see that strength is starting to come back - less back and joint pain today - just wish my sleeping patterns would start to return to normal and I could get more than 5 hours in at night time but I see from other people that that might take a while. Am hoping that as each day goes by now I will get stronger and am eagerly awaiting getting some hair back - hopefully another 3 weeks I have been told. Am hoping my mind starts to settle down as well but can imagine as I get closer to my scan I am going to start to worry about it.
Am just so hoping I get a good result.

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shashelt
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posted 12-19-2007 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shashelt   Click Here to Email shashelt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Bonnie,

You poor dear...getting a virus and dealing with side effects too! This time will probably seem like a walk in the countryside. Over the shock of the hair loss yet? It gets easier. For the first couple of weeks, when I saw myself in the mirror I almost startled myself! lol And I agree that it's good for your SO to have a little personal experience with what this is all about. Hope you'll be up to enjoying Christmas with him.

Speaking of hair - Newt, the little fuzzies are a great thing to see! Feels almost like a downy chick. :-) Most often though it doesn't come back quite the same texture as before. Mine has always come back really kinky curly (was just wavy prior to chemo) but gradually relaxes.

Hugs to all-
Sharon

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posted 12-19-2007 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NetNewt   Click Here to Email NetNewt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Sharon
Thanks for the info on the hair - I still have a little fuzz all over my head so I hope that doesn't interfere with the new growth - my hair was always thick and frizzy before this so I hope ti comes back a bit soft and more manageable this time. Anyway what ever I just want some back to I can go to beach this summer and swim if we ever get any warm weather. I am so looking forward to those first signs of new growth.
Lyn

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posted 12-19-2007 06:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mudrunner     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks to all who’ve posted on CHOP. I hope I don’t have to go there. I did my first R-CVP 20 days ago and was scheduled for the next one tomorrow. We’ve put that off for a week to see if I can cope with it after this week’s adventures. I took all the IV’s and the prednisone 5-5,3,1 and experienced much of what has been posted. Day one was OK, day two big headache, stomach and intestinal problems, day three BIG BIG headache, and still cramped, day four tooth and jaw misery. The instantaneous memory lapsing was also very evident. Over the next 5 days everything but the indigestion and cramping eased up. By the tenth day I did a 20 mile bike ride with my geezer buddies and didn’t feel too bad afterwards.

I thought it was over at that 10th day. Unpleasant but not the worst thing I’ve ever experienced. However, day 15 brought massive diarrhea and projectile vomiting…but then it cleared off about two in the morning. Yesterday it hit again. My stomach was so bloated it looked like I was smuggling a basket ball. Once again after many hours of bowing to the porcelain god, it pretty much cleared off. But not before the wife had called Onc. about my very pronounced heart arrhythmia and labored breathing. Went in for EKG today to verify it was (probably) caused by stomach pressure and electrolyte problems.

Having gone thru only my first cycle, I don’t know if this series of unpleasantries was normal or if I just picked up a really nasty and recurring stomach bug around the 15th day. My Onc voiced some surprise at the diarrhea and heart jumping part of the whole thing, so once again…normal or not?

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posted 12-19-2007 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for boletus_hunter   Click Here to Email boletus_hunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh my mudrunner, I am so sorry for the tough time you've had. Normal? Anything's possible, but did you get some bad food? Sounds more like food poisioning or a norwalk virus. Did you by any chance eat in a restuarnt on day 14?

Finished up my last round of CVP in July and I had only one mild bit of nauseau, though I did have regular stomach ache's for which I took the anti-nausea meds and it worked fine.

I can understand your onc being surprised. Donna

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posted 12-29-2007 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjm   Click Here to Email bjm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mudrunner - thanks so much for mentioning the heart arrhythmia and breathing. Days 6-7 after R-CHOP #2, my heart felt so full, any exertion made me have to rest. Then I also remembered that I hadn't taken Prilosec for two days (thinking I wouldn't need it anymore). Ha. I talked with the onc nurse about the rapid heart beat and what felt "irregular" and she said as long as it isn't sustained and does return to normal, it's a side effect...especially at low blood count time of a week after chemo. It's hard to differentiate between that weird fullness in the chest and heartburn, so I think I'll stay on Prilosec as a precaution. And on the "low" day I just couldn't get warm, no matter how many layers I put on. A warm bath finally helped.

I'm counting my blessings I haven't had the nausea I've read about, so far just sore mouth, hair loss, prednisone weirdness :-), heart iffy-ness, and fatigue.

Thank you all for your posts. Makes one feel less crazy.
-bonnie

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posted 01-07-2008 01:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shashelt   Click Here to Email shashelt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bumping this up for one of our new posters...

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posted 01-08-2008 12:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for boletus_hunter   Click Here to Email boletus_hunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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And on the "low" day I just couldn't get warm, no matter how many layers I put on. A warm bath finally helped.

Oh yes, Bonnie, I know just what you mean! Began using a microwaveable heating pad, alot.

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posted 01-09-2008 12:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bjm   Click Here to Email bjm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Donna - I also bought a large heating pad for nighttime - which was wonderful. Then I was given an electric blanket for Christmas, which has been heavenly. I've stayed away from them for over 20 years, but now...oh yum.

Thinking of other "coping with CHOP" issues: Had follow-up with onc nurse last Friday. Since Prilosec relief has been iffy, she gave me samples of (prescription) Prevacid. Much better results, and I take only one in the morning. I also told her about my emotional crash around Jan 1, she suggested a meeting with a counselor, since there's just a lot of stuff going on right now. I think it might be good. Anybody taking that route, too?

So I've learned (granted, after only after 2 R-CHOPS) that my least favorite days are days 8-14 after treatment (duh - low blood counts) and the best are the 5-7 days leading up to the next one. Energy comes back, yet it's not prednisone induced :-)...and I'm not freezing cold all the time. I've shown that energy chart from "Tex" to several people and that helped explain things. -Bonnie

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posted 01-09-2008 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for UtilityGuy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bjm:
...I also told her about my emotional crash around Jan 1, she suggested a meeting with a counselor, since there's just a lot of stuff going on right now. I think it might be good. Anybody taking that route, too?

I'm reminded of a TV ad I've seen -

"Being able to talk with someone who knows how to listen and won't say stupid things back: priceless."

I guess it depends a bit on your personality, but if it seems to you like it might help, there might be little harm in trying.

Mike

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posted 01-09-2008 04:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NetNewt   Click Here to Email NetNewt     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Bonnie
I tried the counsellor route - I didn't find it very helpful and was disappointed - I tried 2 different ones and neither really helped me - have had better results talking to my local dr who has just made himself available any time I wanted to talk. Counsellors tried hypnosis and various other methods to get me to relax but these did not carry through to when I was on my own.
I have found more counselling advice here on the bulletin boards than I got from the professionals - having said that though it is worth a try for you as everyone is different and responds differently.
Lyn

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posted 01-10-2008 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for boletus_hunter   Click Here to Email boletus_hunter     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by bjm:
I also told her about my emotional crash around Jan 1, she suggested a meeting with a counselor, since there's just a lot of stuff going on right now. I think it might be good. Anybody taking that route, too?

Bless your heart, Bonnie. Emotional crash? Oh, yes, been there and that predinose crash, for me, kicked off crying bouts, crying at the drop of a word, the list is too long to type :0!

I was fortunate when dx for having an already established counseling relationship. I'd not seen her in awhile but she was the first non-family member I told, knowing that I would need support for journey. That was nine years ago and it was very helpful.

A difficult thing for me to remember was that the predisone wacked me bad. Chemo brain stikes again!

So, in conclusion, yes counseling can help, is vital in some circumstances with the right therapist.

My good days, in the begining were the prednisone days that allowed me to plow through the time with energy to keep chores done. LOL

Hugs Donna

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Hi Guys this is where I'm at this moment in time with my disease.
I was diagnosed October 2007 with NHL from a large 9 inch tumor in my abdominal region and other aswell, I have had 4 cycles of R Chop and 3 cycles of R Give but to not much success ,some shrinkage has happened but not enough. Follicular NHL grade 3 B cell, a recent Pet scan shows that all that treatment is not going as good as they expected it all to.
they seem to suspect that the tumors that are left now could be more agressive then first diagnosed.
Right from the start before the chemo they Planned a BMT after the chemo, I just had the stem Cell collection last week.
Next Monday 21st I'm booked in to have a high dose of chemo a mixture of Methotrexate and Cytarabine ,then if that has killed off the cancers they will go ahead with the BMT.
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My Chemo Journey
During the R Chop I had a rough ride on the Prednisolone and the Newlaster for build up of white cells.
I found that having the Prednisolone early in the morning was much better I was able to sleep at night ,I kept busy through the day making things at home and mowing the lawns and at night I crashed easyer.
I took some multy vitamins and fish oil tablets that helped a lot.
The newlaster gave me lots of bad joint pains so the fish oil and strong pain killers helped a bit with that.
I did get lots of morning nausia every day on Rchop for about 8 days , I took some (Metoclopramide/Pramin)or Stemetill for the nausia.
I was bit bit aggitated after coming off the Prednisolone ,they call it royde rage as they are a steroid,I found that going on long walks helped with that.
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The R Give journey was and is much easyer.
Just had my 3rd cycle of 3 .15 days ago,
Usualy very tired for a few days then I come good its a much smoother journey then the R Chop was, no morning sicknes and I dont have the Newlaster after it, I feel fine now my energy leval are just rising now thats good ,now able to do some work around the house slowly resting every hour and only working for a bout 2/4 hours not every day.
So that was and is my journey ,so far as my Journey continues. Here look at this thread.
http://ubb-lls.leukemia-lymphoma.org/ubb/Forum23/HTML/001180.html

Regards, Mark........

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Hi Margaret
First off, congratulations on beating this monster!!!
I noticed something that you said towards the end...that the cancer that you were dealing with was the one that relapses the most. By chance, might it be Angioimmunoblastic T Cell Lymphoma?

Thats the one my mom has...

God Bless,
Dina

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